anything, only sparking even more protest, impromptu demonstrations taking place on thursday evening as netanyahu was speaking and as he wrapped up we saw videos of protesters facing water canons and police trying to block highways across israel and all in an angry response to what benjamin netanyahu said on thursday evening, wolf? >> hadas gold, thank you. >> to our viewers, thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." follow me on bitwitter and instagram, erin burnett out front starts right now. ♪ ♪ out front next, fears of an imminent strike. we'll take you to odesa, a city that's been hit hard, at the top of the program we've shown you on live television, is putin

about to strike again. trump's legal team saying the former has hours to respond to the former counsel as trump testifies before the grand jury for the third time. three times. the suspected gilgo beach serial killer may have committed the murders in his own home as the suspect's wife breaks her silence. the sheriff in that case is my guest. let's go out front. >> good evening. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight, bracing for attack. this is odesa, ukraine, it is just after 2:00 a.m. on friday morning. the past three nights like clockwork air sirens started blasting right at this time followed by a barrage of russian missile strikes and it's just a bit of what we've shared with you. monday evening 6:55 eastern time and nearly 2:00 a.m. in ukraine and you see the fireball streaking across the sky. at 7:09 eastern time and again

at the start of the program, alex marquardt and his team again were there. you hear it capturing this incredible moment on camera. that there what they were looking at was a missile defense system for ukraine at work against the russian missiles, then it happened again last night at 7:13 p.m. eastern time, the sound of explosions can be heard. again, ukraine using air defenses to stop cruise missiles. in fact, as of now and it's 2:01 a.m. in ukraine. ukraine's president says russia used 70 missiles and 90 drones over the past few days and in odesa which has come under the heaviest assault, ukraine's military was able to intercept the missiles and the numbers they had destroyed five of the 19 missiles fired at that crucial port city according to the ukrainian air force. it's a city of a million people. we spoke to retired general mark hertling about this and russia

is firing off as many weapons as it can to test, to see how much air defense ukraine's cities have. obviously, it helps them ascertain where the patriot batteries, for example, placed. russian state television, putin's prop gandists and looking at that ratio and celebrating. >> the same thing that happened at night in odesa, this is their direct merit, very serious. >> translator: this is called the escalation spiral. you hit us, we hit you. >>. >> translator: this is war. this is how it should be. >> and as that happens on russia state television we are getting new video into "out front" tonight of the actual front lines. ukraine's forces using cluster munitions against russian troops. these are the controversial weapons zelenskyy had been pressing the united states to provide and finally are being provided. their question is whether it will give ukrainians the advantage they so badly need

right now. there are some that say those cluster munitions could be transformational. alex marquardt is out front in odesa. you've been out there every night this week. high anxiety and everyone preparing for attacks and everyone is out now in the next few minutes from now where every single night this week the missiles have started. >> like clockwork, as you said, erin. almost exactly at 2:00 a.m. each of the last three nights and this is a city very much on edge and understandably so given everything we have seen over the past three nights and the worst attacks on the city since the beginning of the war. we really have had a front-row seat to these spectacular aerial attacks by the russians and the air defenses that ukraine mounted against both those drones and missiles. it is quiet right now, erin, and given that everything that we've seen over the past few nights, i have to admit it is a bit of an erie quiet knowing that it could

be shattered at any moment and that things could change at any moment and right now we don't have any sign of a strike, but that could change very quickly and we saw the kind of strike that russia can mount and some 40 drones and cruise missiles. they use four different kinds of cruise missiles. they used numerous strategic bombers to launch the cruise missiles and almost 20 of those iranian-made drones and we went to one of those strike sites and destroyed a building, an administrative building that had nothing to do with the military or the port. ukraine says that russia is carrying out the strikes because it carried ukraine's infrastructure after pulling out of the grain deal. russia says it has carried out the strikes in retaliation for that attack against the bridge that is connected to crimea, whether russia plans to continue retaliating, that is what we are waiting to see. >> alex, as you await this as you said, and i think everyone

should understand, sometimes you hear air raid sirens before strikes and sometimes you don't and even in the past few days that's been the case where you are which is important to highlight. you don't even get the warning every time. i do know that today during the day despite the disrupted sleep, no sleep, you did have rare access to a ukrainian command post. what did you see? >> well, erin, we have to remember that as russia is hitting these cities that this important counteroffensive is going on at the same time. we spent time with the 47th mechanized brigade and this was a couple of days ago. we spent time with two different groups. one out near the front line. they had some of this new american equipment. we saw one of their bradley fighting vehicles and then we went to a command post and spoke with the soldiers there and to a man, each of the soldiers told me when i asked how the fight was going they said it was incredibly difficult. take a look. in a secret basement bunker,

part of ukraine's 47th mechanized brigade is desperately trying to find out how to punch through russian lines. >> there are a lot of russians. >> there are a lot of russians. >> in here and overall. they have more guns. they have more shells and they have more people. >> cnn was given an exclusive look at this battalion command post at the very front of ukraine's counteroffensive in the south filled with maps and feeds from drones. sta stanislav watches dozens of drones trying to take out russian positions. >> you can see how close they are. >> yeah. >> and you can tell them. >> and we guide them. >> you can redirect them farther, closer, left, right. >> yes. >> how do you think the fight is going in your section? >> it's tough. it's tough. >> the no-man's-land between the

two sides is heavily pock marked with craters from thousands of artillery rounds, but it's these little white dots some of the countless anti-tank and anti-personnel mines that are a part of what is making ukraine's advance so limited. demining teams called zappers bravely cross the densely mined battlefield often under fire to diffuse or detonate the russian mines. troll is a zapper who just got back from a mission. >> we need to break through the mine barrier, he says so equipment and infantry can pass. the enemy uses constant artillery and mortar fire. it's hard, he says, very hard. everyone here, soldiers and generals alike admit that over a month into ukraine's counteroffensive, progress is slower than they would like. they argue that the russians had months to dig in and prepare,

but ukraine was preparing as well. soldiers like this team getting weeks of western training in all kinds of new equipment. like this american armored bradley fighting vehicle, rarely shown to the press. >> the bradley team leader named koch is just 19. he shows us inside which is also used to carry troops across the battlefield. i feel very protected, he says. we know we're safe because it can withstand a lot and has a very thick layer of armor and it has been tested in battles. >> why do you wear the american flag? >> koch is four months out of american training in germany and his patch a parting gift of good luck from his u.s. trainer. >> the first day of fighting was the most difficult, he tells us. we didn't know what to expect, what could happen, how events would unfold. early setbacks on this front have meant that ukraine has had to change tactics moving more on foot after many of the newly

acquired vehicles were damaged or destroyed. the team camps out in a narrow tree line trying to hide from russian drones. when their next order to assault will come they don't know, but soon they will be back in the fight. this is the life here, the team's gunner says. you live by the fact that you're preparing for the next mission. aaron, that team will have many, many more missions before this counteroffensive is over. the western allies of ukraine continue to send all kinds of military a-2 cranes. just yesterday the biden administration announcing $1.2 billion in military aid and that has complex air defense systems which actually protect washington d.c. and those will be very appreciated in ukraine and they can knock missiles out of the sky and this is very top of mind and not just in all of

ukraine, but here in particular in odesa as we wait to see whether there will be a fourth night in a row of russian attacks on the city, erin? >> alex, thank you very much. >> with me now former russian lawmaker ilya was forced into exile in putin's annexation of crimea which forced him to have to leave. alex is standing in odesa tonight and what's interesting is i was there last week. you get the air raid sirens, but sometimes alex points out in recent days you don't get the air raid sirens and you still get the missiles. so this has been an onslaught now for at least three days. we'll see what happens this hour. how long do you think putin will continue to bombard odesa? >> it will be forever because what he is trying to do right now is to prove that he is the guy who controls the grain deal and whether he wants it to happen, that will happen and

whether he doesn't want it it will not happen, and the reality is that the russia is weaker and that's why they cannot sink the ships in the black sea so instead they're trying to destroy the ports. >> obviously, odesa is the port. >> odesa is the port and the defense is way harder to shoot those drones when they approach and you usually shoot them in the back because they're coming from the sea. so there is nowhere to put your people in front. >> right. right. you are right there on the beach there. putin made a visit today to northwestern russia nair the bering sea. really far out there, ilya. before he went there, the kremlin said he would make a regional trip today. they didn't say where. obviously, there have been a lot of concerns about his safety and the drone attacks right on moscow itself, but when you see that in his behavior, how concerned do you think he is

about his own safety, his own life or death? >> that's good he is afraid. that's pretty obvious. he is afraid of our guys who may have a stinger with them or any other anti-aircraft missile that can shoot him from the skies. also, i think he senses that in the west the attitude towards him is changing and that somebody may give a command so let's change the guy in russia. >> so you think he does, it's evident. >> yes, as much as people in america are doing this, as much in russia, they do believe it is already happening and that someone from cia is working on that. >> right. right. >> and then you have the russian sub commander, right? killed by they say a ukrainian and they've got infiltration of some sort. >> they don't understand they cannot control the situation. >> today in belarus video they

received, lukashenko's belarus, showing the belarusian exercises with the wagner group which is relocating to belarus each though prigozhin himself doesn't appear to have done that. there is a real question of where the wagner loyalties lie, if wagner will come down and wagner changes the front it changes my war. you think the putin-prigozhin relationship is not what many others think, that others think this is a real coup and putin was weakened and do you think it might be different? >> i think it was a real coup, but it was a coup against the russian military and not against mr. putin. i think mr. putin was aware and mr. putin is still on good terms with mr. prigozhin, and mr. prigozhin is one of the most trusted men. >> one of the most trusted? >> one of the most trusteded. when essentially putin was running a gang and what prigozhin was providing for the

gang was an asylum and a gathering place which has to be as secure as possible and that's one of the most trusted person of any gang, the guy who provides the premisis. >> putin and prigozhin may have been in this together versus the military. >> think that putin knew that prigozhin would not stand against him. that's his -- he was, of course, taking some precautions, but at the end he trusted prigozhin. i think what is happening now is the perfect indication that i was right. i was saying this from the very beginning and the fact that putin then met with wagner commanders and that's happening proves that they still are on good terms and that actually makes me worried because being in belarus, i am not here so much about ukraine. prigozhin wanted to get out of ukraine for a very long time. he was sick and tired of being in bakhmut and he lost a lot of men there. what i am ashlgs fraid is that

connects mainland russia and running a provocation there is a natural thing to do because in this case, prigozhin looks like a lone state actor and he is also not russian, but acting from the territory of belarus so putin will say it's not me and then the lithuanians would call for article 5 and a lot of people like journalists will say why should we do it? >> we'll see, obviously, a fearsome proposition there. thank you very much. ilya, i appreciate your time. next, the clock is ticking for trump to respond to the doj. according to his lawyers he only has a few hours before the deadline and that's tonight as a trump aide today appeared for a third time before a grand jury. what wouldes necessitate appearg three times before a jury? we'll find out. robert f. kennedy jr., trying to re-write history claiming he never said controversial things that he actually did say.

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he has been officially informed that he is a target in the investigation. so all eyes today were on that federal grand jury. they did meet today and they heard from one of trump's former aides, a man named will russell. he was with trump on january 6th. you may not know the name will russell, but it is clearly an important one because it is the third time that will russell has testified before this grand jury, and it comes as we are learning tonight that even more witness interviews have been scheduled to happen in the future. so paula reid is out front now with those new developments. paula, can you explain, special council, it is scheduling more interviews in the coming weeks so who are these individuals? >> that's right, erin. we learned that over the past several weeks even before the target letter went out, the special counsel is conducting interviews with people that are scheduled as far out as a month from now. among the people they are

expected to talk to, a former trump lawyer and also former new york police commissioner bernie kerik who worked very closely with rudy giuliani in the efforts in and around the election and rudy giuliani was one of the people they reached out to, but they've been able to complete his interview and they sat down with him over the course of two mornings, but we know the former president received a target letter on sunday. that typically means an indictment is imminent. he was given, as you know, until today to go before the grand jury. we don't expect he will do that. we don't expect that he'll give them formal notice that he won't do it which leads to ambiguity for indictment before they wrap up their work. we know they did this in the mar-a-lago investigations. they indicted the former president and his associate walt nauta and then they continued their work. they even sent out another target letter. even if there is an indictment

letter, we know the special counsel's work will continue through the summer. >> thank you very much. ryan goodman is with me now, along with sara griffen, former white house communications director. >> he was january 6th, house select subcommittee. so paula was explaining they did interviews post-indictment. a month out you're rooking at august 20th and you get a target letter and everyone says it's imminent. does this change the indictment when you know there are multiple witnesses still scheduled to testify? >> i don't think so. i don't think it changes the clock at all. the biggest information we have is the target letter giving former president trump one last opportunity at the final stages and then it should be imminent. it would be surprising to me if, in fact, he were indicted and then they stopped the grand jury. >> so that would be normal to continue gathering evidence? >> completely normal especially with an investigation that's

multi-pronged. we know there's another investigation with mail-in wire fraud if they raise money on false pretenses and that would easily continue after an indictment of former president trump or other people that could potentially co-conspirators, but haven't been indicted yet. >> one of the people not scheduled, and i mentioned third time they've brought him in. on a certain level you bring someone, obviously he is person, why -- and he was the deputy for advance, but because of that role he had a lot of access to the former president. he was constantly a fixture on air force one. he'd go into the cabin to brief him with the run of a show of events he would go to and notably on january 6th he was at the ellipse backstage with him. so he, this is speculation, but

what i suspect they may be trying to get at is the discussions and deliberations on the ground that day ahead of the former president speaking and then ahead of the riot at the capitol. this is someone who could potentially corroborate cassidy hutchinson, and not worrying that there might be armed people because they weren't there for me. this is someone who would have been privy to those conversations though himself not necessarily engaging, so it's very notable he's been called back in. >> you still believe an indictment is still imminent and bernard kerik coming in on this and a former new york police commissioner and that is scheduled in the future. do you think that's important? i know you obviously met with him, as well before january 6th deliberations. >> we did. we interviewed former kerik, and i would say it was a half way

interview because he came in and provided some information and he also made a fair number of privileged assertions, attorney-client privilege. the advantage that the special counsel has that the congressional committee does not have is that they can immediately take a privileged claim that they don't credit to the chief judge of the district who will quickly adjudicate whether the claim is or isn't valid. they have the apparatus because it's a criminal grand jury to resolve privileged assertions to adjudicate them quickly. we did not. so while kerik came in and provided information, he might either voluntarily or be forced to provide more information about direct communications with mr. giuliani or with the president himself about these bogus claims of election fraud that he and others have been tasked with investigating. >> finding places where there was fraud, of course there wasn't, but that's what he was trying to do. >> ryan, to the point of bernie

kerik and alyssa saying bill russell coming ever about the jury three times? ? it might be in his situation because his lawyer today claimed part of the issue was executive privilege. the first time he comes in he claimants additional, and they have other witnesses that they can provide to them. >> the judge, conspire see against rights and when you look at the statute, and of the three mentioned it has a maximum of ten years and you think, as you look at this, you have a better sense of what jack smith is thinking? >> so this is a rpse in that it has not beererted before that they were looking at this. it's not in the select committee's reportr. select committee mentions potential offenses and it's not there. >> right. when you look at the chart of

denial of rights. it's like a hand in glove situation. it is about the election crimes. the department of justice has prosecuted people time and again for interfering with their ability for their vote to be counted, for interfering with their vote to be certified and for the use of violence to pri vent prevent their vote from being exercised. it was prosecuted successfully many times before. >> they have prosecuted it successfully? >> absolutely. it's the very kind of thing that the justice department would want to take off the shelf for this kind of situation. >> so, timothy, as ryan mentioned this was a charge that was not in the referral to the doj. were you surprised when you saw it? do you think it applies? >> i think it arguably does apply, yes. like a lot of statutes might apply to the core conduct. we looked at the entire federal criminal probe and identified the statutes that we thought was

most applicable to the packs that we developed and the lead count being the obstruction of an initial proceeding and actually that's a 20-year statutory maximum and i don't think it is really guiding this and i think they will choose the charge or chargeses that seem most applicable, and one, the deprivation of civil wide right and the vote to vote is one of those rights. the theory would be that the president by disrupting the joint session, by attempting to prevent the transfer of power essentially tried to discount or undercut the will of the people exercised through the ballot box. so i do think it arguably applies and i think all of the statute's name in our report and in the target letter and some others arguably apply that the challenge for the special counsel will decide which of them to bring and then who in the conspiracy should be

included. as ryan points out we may not know the other whos even if trump himself is indict in the next day or two or whatever it can be, from what you understand is there the perception and this is more dnging than anything else or is it blase? >> they are concerned about this. they were surprised by the reported charges. i think there was an expectation they might try to pursue insurrection which the legal team around the former president said that will be harder to prove. these are much more specific and they weren't prepared for them. so any time you're caught off guard i think that's weighing on them, but they are absolutely worried because no one else, who did? why dna the special counsel? >> the questions that they dna

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tonight, democratic presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr., denying he's a conspiracy theorist denying a record of bogus claims especially against vaccines and he says he's not racist and anti-semitic. kennedy was the republican star witness about government censorship and it came from members of his own party and we begin our coverage out front. >> democratic presidential candidate ask spreader of vaccine misinformation, robert kennedy jr., invited by republicans to testify on capitol hill. >> it's the witness' time. do not censor the witness. >> i'm not censoring the witness. i'm not censoring the witness. he's still talking. >> it was the democrats who asked tough questions in a testy hearing on censorship. kennedy telling the committee his views are protected speech. >> the first amendment was not meant for an easy speech. it was written for the speech that nobody likious for.

i was censored and not just by the democratic administration. i was censored by the trump administration. >> democrats accused republican leadership of giving kennedy's dangerous rhetoric a platform in congress. >> that's not just supporting free speech. they have co-signed on idiotic, bigoted messaging. it's a conscious choice. >> regarding kennedy's blatant lies where he said covid-19 is targeted to attack caucasians and plblack people. the people most immune are ashkenazi jews. >> i am under oath and my entire life i have never uttered a phrase that was either racist or anti-semitic. i have spent my life fighting my professional career fighting for israel. >> kennedy repeatedly claimed he

didn't say things that are, in fact, on camera. >> i've never been anti-vaccine. anyone in this room probably believes that i have been and that's the prevailing narrative. i have never told the public avoid vaccination, but kennedy has a long record of attacking safe vaccines including the covid-19 vaccine and promoted false claims like childhood vaccines linking it to oughtism and that it was caused by vaccine research even saying this on a 2021 podcast. >> i see someone on a hiking trail with a little baby and i say i wouldn't get them vaccinated. >> kennedy's fellow democrats pushed back saying his comments bring shame to his famous family name. >> you are here for cynical reasons to be used by that side of the aisle to embarrass the current president of the united states and it brings shame to a

stored name. >> despite some of these outlandish claims that kennedy has made, he still has some support. the most recent quinnipiac poll has him at 14% among democratic voters and likely democratic voters still an uphill battle for kennedy as he takes on president biden in the democratic primary. >> eva, thank you very much. from washington tonight where those hearings took place. out front now david axelrod, senior adviser to president obama. david, let me start just start he is not a racist or conspiracy theorist. he said and quote last week at a fund-raiser in new york. covid-19 is targeted to attack caucasians and black people. the most immune are ashkenazi jews and chinese. how can he say that and then say he's not racist and anti-semitic. >> you are looking at an ashkenazi jew who had covid

twice, i either didn't get the benefit or someone lied to me about my heritage. those are blatant, racist tropes. he also compared the protocols for vaccines and covid to nazi germany and enslavement and he is very free and easy with those kinds of phrases and he's become the darling of conspiracy theorists and afficionados of those and of the far right. you know, he got a very warm welcome today from jim jordan. he's been embraced by tucker carlson and others for those reasons and his anti-corporate populism and for opposing our support for ukraine and a lot of his support comes from these theories which are dangerous because if you tell parents, for example, that childhood vaccines create -- are linked to autism, some number of them are going to

believe it and not give their children their vaccines and expoe expose them to childhood diseases and if you tell people that the vaccine, the covid vaccines are government conspiracies and they're laced with material that will help government trace you anyd so on. that encourages people to not use them and. >> i would say a vaccine used to track you and then he ran for president and they put him back on allege the bill gates vaccine that they would put chips in your head so them they can track you. it was one of the most widely viewed posts that he put out there. it doesn't matter if it is disproved and there are people that don't take the vaccines because they're afraid. >> what was interesting to me about today's hearing, erin. he's been hungry for debates with people over his theories. today he seemed to run from all of them as you heard in the one

case, but in several places he denied things that have said repeatedly said on tape some of it in books, some of it in his writing. so the debate he was having today was with himself. >> well, let me ask you one other point about where this may be resonating because we talk about the overall polls. i was talking to a prominent source and democratic party last week and he was talking about concern about rfk jr.'s residence among black voters. the let'sest poll we have on this front is cnn put him at 14% compared to 5% so he does much better with people of color and it's dropped by 17 points since 2021. that's a big drop. how serious is this? >> i don't know that it's serious relative to a race against rfk jr. of course, he does benefit from a revered name in democratic politics and particularly among

african-american voters. i think in the long run, though, there is a concern particularly about younger black men who have begun to kind of leech, migrate away from the democratic coalition. we saw it in 2020, and that's something to be monitored. that is a concern, but as far as rfk jr., i have to say this, bobby kennedy was one of my absolute heroes, political heros and inspired me to get involved in politics. i think as one of the speakers said today he would be absolutely appalled and saddened by what his son is doing now. >> david, thank you very much. >> nice to see you. >> i hope everyone will please watch or listen to the newest episode of david's podcast, the axe files which is out now on the best podcast there is. police say the suspected gilgo beach serial killer may have

murdered women in his home. the sheriff who runs the county jail where rex heuermann is with me next, plus tim scott's surprising answer when asked if he'd be with trump.

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tonight, did the suspected gilgo beach serial killer commit murders in his own home? a source involved in the investigation telling cnn they're operating on the theory

that the accused serial killer rex heuermann may have lured the victims into his home when his family was away. this new information coming as the wife of the gilgo beach murder suspect is breaking her silence. heuermann's wife said she and her family are going through a, quote, devastating time in their lives and it's especially hard on their elderly family members and she's filing for divorce from heuermann just yesterday. they were married for 27 years. rex heuermann is being held in suffolk county jail tonight and he has visited heuermann in his cell three times and he joins me now. sheriff, i very much appreciate your time. thank you for being with us, and i understand police have been searching heuermann's family home for days now. they removed dozens of bizarre items, a glass-encased dolls and many others and they're operating that heuermann committed murders in his home and then disposed of the bodies on that beach.

what more are you able to tell us about all of this? >> first, thank you for having me on, erin. i think it's most important for the viewers to understand the fact that every piece of evidence that could be gathered whether from the storage containers or from his home could be valuable not only to the murders that he's currently being charged with, but more importantly if we can connect him to other murders whether they were in on new york or other locations. >> and is it -- do you think it's possible there are? i understand anything is possible, but other locations outside of new york? >> we're not going to exclude that possibility, and so i think as we gather evidence now that we have actual dna, we can't compare it to other crime scenes that may have occurred other looks that are suspicious and where he could be possibly a suspect. >> sheriff toulon, i understand he is in your jail and currently spending this time alone and 60

square foot cell and monitored while he eats and has a television, but he's not watching it. is there anything else that you can share with us about the conditions of his current jail confinement and his behavior? >> he's currently under suicide watch by our mental health staff who has put him in that category and that's really not something -- it's something that's done with someone that has a notable case coming into our facilities. so we have two correctional officers. we have also added some extra technology cameras facing his cell because one of the things that we do not want to do is make sure that we are diligent in the surveillance of him and making sure nothing happens to him because we want to bring him to justice the same way he came to us. any time that he's going to be escorted throughout our facility we are going to shut down the facility for any inmate movement because we don't know if any one of the individuals that are in our custody have come in contact with him previously and may want

to seek retribution. >> sheriff toulon, i know that you have seen him on three occasions now. you've interacted with him and you've had a chance for lack of of a better word to look him in the eye and the face. what can you tell us about those interactions? >> amazingly, no emotions whatsoever. when you think about someone last week that was roaming around the streets of new york and also massapequa park freely to be confined in a you think you would see some emotion. but i can tell you over the course of the next days and weeks, as his circumstances change, you just mentioned earlier about the fact that his wife is filing for divorce. i don't know if his children will have any contact with him. and as things start to become more and more distant, their behavior inside the facilities can change, which is something we really have to be cognizant

of. >> sheriff, his wife did say tonight that she and her family are going through a devastating time. she did obviously file for divorce. 27 years of marriage. so she obviously is marriaged to him during any of the murders you're already accusing him of, in addition to any others that you may be able to bring charges for. and you mentioned his children, adult children. do you know whether she has reached to him, visited him, any of them since he was arrested? >> no one has visited him other than his attorney since his incarceration. we are monitoring that also. he is allowed to have anyone come and visit him, just like any other person in our custody. but more importantly, he can deny access to any visits. someone can come and register for a visit to see him, but he can deny the visit. >> has he denied any visits? >> he has denied two visits. >> is there anything -- where they journalists or other people? >> yes, actually they were

journalists. he did not know who these individuals were that were attempting to visit him. so he decided to deny those visits. >> all right. well, sheriff toulon, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> for having me on. >> all right. look forward to speaking with you again soon. and next, who is the presidential candidate that voters want to know more about? i'll give you a hint. it is not donald trump. it is not ron desantis. but it is someone else in the republican field, and harry enten will tell you who it is. and right now a suspected lion on the loose in a major city.. , then i'm not going to be nervous. financially, i'm the flflight attendant in that situation. the relief that comes over people once they know they've got a guide to help them through, i definitely feel privileged to be in that position. ♪

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tonight, lioness on the loose. police in germany on the prowl, looking to track down what is believed to be a lioness spotted on the outskirts of berlin after several witnesses reported a, quote, large predatory cat chasing a wild boar. police have deployed 30 police cars and 200 police cars. adding to the intrigue, nobody knows where the lioness escaped from. they've checked the zoos, parks and other facilities, and there is no lioness missing. well, thank you so much for joining us. we'll see if that mystery develops overnight. in the meantime, it's time for "ac 360" and anderson. good evening tonight on "360." the ukrainian city of odesa bracing for a possible fourth night of air strikes, the destruction on the ground.